Hot & Bothered: Radical Pragmatism

Hot & Bothered: Radical Pragmatism

A Green New Deal needs to translate lofty ideas into specific interventions. How quickly can we decarbonize our energy grid, how do we overcome the institutional obstacles of the American political system, and how do we put frontline communities in the lead?

Protesters marching for a Green New Deal in Detroit, July 2019 (Becker1999/Flickr)

This podcast episode is part of a special mini-series on Designing the Green New Deal. The Hot & Bothered podcast will return from a hiatus next Thursday, April 9. Tune in with Kate and Daniel for weekly episodes on how we tackle climate change amid the coronavirus emergency.

To win a Green New Deal, we need to deepen and expand mass movements and coalitions. Last fall at the University of Pennsylvania, we organized a massive conference on Designing a Green New Deal, with contributions by academics, journalists, organizers, and designers. In this four-part mini-series, we bring you audio of the discussions.

To achieve rapid and equitable decarbonization will require immense practical wisdom, and a clear-eyed recognition of the obstacles in our path. We must also learn from the environmental justice movement, whose struggles invented the concepts behind the Green New Deal decades ago. This episode features UC Santa Barbara political scientist Leah Stokes, Vox writer David Roberts, WE-ACT Director of Legislative Affairs Kerene Tayloe, Esq, and Roosevelt Institute’s Director of Climate Policy Rhiana Gunn-Wright. 

Daniel, Kate, and special guest (and conference co-organizer) Billy Fleming introduce the episode. The conference was co-hosted by the McHarg Center for Urbanism and Ecology and the Socio-Spatial Climate Collaborative, or (SC)2.


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Check out the full Hot & Bothered archive here. Hot & Bothered is produced by Colin Kinniburgh. Music: Mercurias Meet Victor Rice, “Carregar (Instrumental),” courtesy of Total Running Time.

Further reading

Cleaning Up the Energy System (Leah Stokes, Democracy)

 A Just and Sustainable Economic Response to Coronavirus, Explained (David Roberts, Vox)

WE ACT for Environmental Justice with Kerene Tayloe (Two Broads Talking Politics Podcast)

Meet the Policy Architect Behind the Green New Deal (Rhiana Gunn-Wright, Ezra Klein Show)


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