Hot & Bothered: Building Power, with Naomi Klein, Jane McAlevey, and Julian Brave NoiseCat

Hot & Bothered: Building Power, with Naomi Klein, Jane McAlevey, and Julian Brave NoiseCat

What do political mobilization and economic reconstruction look like in the face of a climate emergency?

The first in a four-part series on how we win a Green New Deal.

Naomi Klein, Julian Brave NoiseCat, and Jane McAlevey at the University of Pennsylvania, September 2019

This podcast episode is part of a special mini-series on Designing the Green New Deal. The Hot & Bothered podcast will return from a hiatus next Thursday, April 9. Tune in with Kate and Daniel for weekly episodes on how we tackle climate change amid the coronavirus emergency.

To win a Green New Deal, we need to deepen and expand mass movements and coalitions. Last fall at the University of Pennsylvania, we organized a massive conference on Designing a Green New Deal, with contributions by academics, journalists, organizers, and designers. In this four-part mini-series, we bring you audio of the discussions.

This episode, we start with our keynote panel, featuring author Naomi Klein, union organizer and author Jane McAlevey, and the journalist and vice president of Data for Progress, Julian Brave NoiseCat. They debate strategies for building a fighting mass movement led by workers that’s strong enough and wise enough to win a Green New Deal.

The current coronavirus crisis makes these debates more relevant than ever. As we struggle to get the health emergency under control, we must also begin planning the recovery. What do political mobilization and economic reconstruction look like in the face of a climate emergency?

Daniel, Kate, and special guest (and conference co-organizer) Billy Fleming introduce the episode. The conference was co-hosted by the McHarg Center for Urbanism and Ecology and the Socio-Spatial Climate Collaborative, or (SC)2.


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Check out the full Hot & Bothered archive here. Hot & Bothered is produced by Colin Kinniburgh. Music: Mercurias Meet Victor Rice, “Carregar (Instrumental),” courtesy of Total Running Time.

Further reading

Coronavirus Capitalism — and How to Beat It (Naomi Klein, Intercept)

Why Unions Matter – Excerpt from A Collective Bargain: Unions, Organizing, and the Fight for Democracy (Jane McAlevey)

The House on Magnolia Street: How a group of homeless mothers took on a housing crisis (Julian Brave NoiseCat, California Sunday


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